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Mary Beth Barone knows her debut Netflix special, “Galaxy Brain,” might piss some people off. In fact, she’s keeping a list — on it are J.K. Rowling, Mark Zuckerberg and male comedians in general, to name a few.
“I’m
just fully ready to get it out there and see who’s mad at me,” Barone tells Variety over Zoom with a sly smile. For the comedian and actor — who got her start in the New York City club scene before breaking through with comedy podcasts “Obsessed” and “Ride” alongside collaborator and bestie Benito Skinner — this moment has been a long time coming.
Over the past two years, Barone had been workshopping material for a potential special while touring, and decided last summer to start putting feelers out to buyers. Then, things happened fast — a few weeks after an L.A. gig in August, Netflix called.
“I don’t feel excitement very much, but that was a moment where I was like, ‘Holy shit, this is actually happening,'” she says. “It’s such a career milestone for any comedian and I just felt like, ‘Woah, they said yes.'”
But that doesn’t mean that Netflix is safe from being the butt of Barone’s jokes. In the first 10 minutes of “Galaxy Brain” — filmed at New York City’s Skirball Center in March — she razzes the streamer for the rarity of women-led specials and riffs on their advice for winning over viewers. It sets the tone that Barone is willing to go there, and over the next hour, no topic is off limits as she tackles bad behavior from the men in her field, Ozempic, sex, politics and more.
“I’m sure some of [the jokes] will be a little bit shocking, but I think women and queer people get shit on enough,” Barone says. “And it’s time to shit on people back.”
Below, Barone tells Variety more about “Galaxy Brain” (out now on Netflix), making jokes she wouldn’t be able to say online and what’s in store for Season 2 of “Overcompensating,” the Prime Video comedy series she co-writes and stars in with Skinner.
What was your process for workshopping material for the special, and how much did it change?
When I first started doing the hour, I would say it was probably 90% different material. Obviously, our lives are constantly changing and I always want the set to feel current but also sort of evergreen. So if there’s any topical references, just making sure that will be relevant whenever it comes out and as long as the special is available — I guess until we all drown from global warning when the sea levels rise. It’s a tough process because sometimes there’s jokes that you love that just weren’t playing as well. But I wanted to balance anything topical with things that happened a really long time ago, so the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, for example, or Jack the Ripper, things like that that are sort of timeless in their own way. I think one of the only super topical references was “Wicked,” and I thought about changing that out to be something that happened more recently — but then I just thought like, “Wicked” is forever.
You don’t hold back in “Galaxy Brain.” In the beginning of the special, you point out how rare it is for women to actually get Netflix specials and share advice they gave you for winning people over within three minutes. Why was it important for you to cheekily call that out?
They were really great about… they didn’t have me cut anything. They definitely gave me some best practices — that thing about getting people’s attention in the first three minutes was an actual conversation that we had. And I’m a good student, so of course I was going to try to do that. I used to have a joke in the beginning of the set that was poking fun at cities that aren’t New York, L.A. or Chicago, and they said, “You have three minutes to catch people’s attention, to win them over. You don’t want to alienate them right away.” So it was genuinely me on tour trying to figure out what to say in three minutes to make people want to keep watching, and working that into the set just felt really natural.
I think there’s a lot of edgy moments in the special. I want it to feel cheeky and also like, stand-up is such a specific performance piece that I can’t imagine going on stage and just launching in and not acknowledging the moment — that we’re all in a room together and I have a microphone and I’m going to try to make you laugh now.
Do you think the situation for women in comedy is improving at all?
The internet, of course, has done really, really good things for comedy and then some not so good things for comedy. But what’s great is it’s made comedy more democratic, because people can start with live performance and post online and then they create their own audience; the right people find them. And I think that’s translated into having more women and queer people who are stand-up comedians that can tour and support themselves financially. That’s been really fun to watch since I started comedy, when it was dominated by the club scene and if you couldn’t get in there and work your way up and be one of the boys, there was less opportunity. Now with all these indie venues — especially in New York and in so many other cities like Pittsburgh, Denver, Chicago — it’s been wonderful to be surrounded by more and more women and the LGBTQ+ community, because those are the people that I want to make laugh and those are the people that I want to be friends with.
You also don’t shy away from calling out male comedians.
They’re some of the worst people that we have!
You mention specific people, including Chris D’Elia, and later jokes mention J.K. Rowling, Woody Allen, Mark Zuckerberg and more. How did you decide who to call out specifically?
I wanted to strike a balance between cultural references and general experiences and moving through the world with my unique point of view, but there were just certain names that I felt like belonged in the canon of this special. What I try to do is write the joke about that person that no one else would or could write. So I do hope that’s where I landed with these ones, and I’m sure some of them will be a little bit shocking, but I think women and queer people get shit on enough and it’s time to shit on people back.
There are some jokes in the special that you say you wouldn’t be able to post online, including one about Ozempic that riffs on Kim Kardashian’s infamous “get your fucking ass up and work” quote — which she said to Variety, by the way. What’s the line for you when it comes to risky jokes and possibly offending people?
Here’s the thing about that — I understood what she meant and I think it started a conversation. And that, to me, is a successful interview.
With that joke specifically, part of what is so almost absurd about it is that it probably will end up online with a comments section, and that’s just part of putting out a special these days … But I think for me it’s like, of course I’m going to explore uncomfortable topics at times, but I don’t find joy or feel a sense of accomplishment punching down. I always want to feel like my jokes are punching up. And sometimes you find just by doing the jokes that they’re not always on the correct side of that line. But yeah, it’s difficult. I want to make the right people uncomfortable, and I want to offend the correct people. Sometimes it is trial and error.
Since the internet is forever, what’s your advice for comedians coming up now when it comes to navigating social media?
I’m sure there’s an instinct if you’re starting out to just post as many clips as possible and try to gain traction that way. But I would say that there’s no substitute for experience and stage time, and the more real-world experience you can get playing off of an audience — you need that foundation because you can’t really fake that.
And the comments section is always something you can look away from. I really struggle with that; I read comments. I’m trying to stop, and I’ve definitely created more boundaries for myself. There’s more and more people that I meet in the industry who don’t have internet access or they don’t use social media at all, they pay someone to post for them. It’s hard as a comedian, because I want my online presence to be an extension of me and feel very authentic, but I know people reach a limit where it’s just not healthy. I can, even now where I’m at, see how people completely lose themselves and their grip on reality … So I feel a lot of gratitude that things have happened really gradually for me. I’m 35 now, so I have so many friends from before, I have an amazing family, I have a lot of support and people that I can surround myself with that are not in the industry to ground me.
I do believe that the age you blow up at is the mental age you can be stuck at forever.
The other side of that too, which we see especially with comedians, is potentially a level of being out of touch where you have to fall back on just being offensive in order to feel like you’re saying something. So my pledge to the public is that if I ever reach a point where I can’t write about something that’s relatable, I just won’t do a stand-up special. I think when you have a totally frictionless life and you’re flying in a private jet everywhere and everyone around you is just saying yes to your every whim, that’s probably when you should just sit back and count your money and leave the public alone.
You’re wearing a stunning dress in the special. Who designed it and what inspired the look?
That is a dress by Jackson Wiederhoeft. We met with their team last year — pretty much as soon as we knew we were going to make the special, I knew that I wanted them to design the dress. And so the references that we gave were the dress in “The Little Mermaid” when she comes out of the water; so fabulous, so beautiful, burned in my brain as a kid. And then Megara from “Hercules” also sort of came in as a reference. I knew I wanted it to be lilac, and it was actually such a specific color that they had to custom dye the fabric and just completely blew me away with what they were able to create. And then on the corset, we had beading done in the shape of the Gemini constellation — because I’m a Gemini — so that felt like a fun tie-in to the sort of overall theme.
I also want to ask about “Overcompensating” Season 2 because I know you just wrapped filming. What can you tease about Grace’s arc this season?
It’s sadder but also funnier. What was cool about arriving to Season 2 was that the characters already felt really lived in, so Benny’s approach was like, what can we do that’s surprising but also fan service? I do think the direction it goes is going to surprise a lot of people, but I can say I have a really wonderful love interest this season and I am excited to see it on screen.
This interview has been edited and condensed.
